Oh yeah, I watched a few of your videos. "The Truth" Is about two cities that the Israeli Army destroyed, and while it is a tragedy that innocent people die, guess who is to really blame here? THE TERRORISTS. Israel wouldn't do random house sweeps, if these terrorists just gave it up and accepted the land that was given to them. But no, its not enough. They want the complete extermination of all Israelis. And yes, the army makes rash choices, and more often than not, they make mistakes. But look at what happened when those choppers fired into the palestinian crowd. What they kind of idly mention in that video, is that they successfully killed a terrorist leader and a few of his followers. But it isn't labeled that, its just called "ISRAEL SHOOTS INTO PALESTINIAN CROWD" You know why they shot into that crowd? To say, "Back off, he's dead." And while it may not have been necessary, and more kids were killed (thats what I call unlucky), it happened. But look at what else happened, they wouldn't be forced to shoot into those crowds if the terrorists didn't hide in them. You know who's really killing these palestinians? The palestinians themselves, and no, I'm not talking about the simple guy who's home happened to be blown inwards and kill his wife. I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about Black September, Hamas, etc. They are causing their own civilian casualties, if they would stop, Israel would stop. I guarantee it, but the land they were given just doesn't seem to be enough, now does it?
EDIT: Also, answer the question, is Al Quaeda justified?
Oh? And I suppose all of the civilians who rode the bus in Tel Aviv were armed, hm? Or perhaps the guys at the Munich olympics in, what, 1974, were hiding knives in their big jew glassses, yes? Yes, list the [censored] casualties of the palestinians, but where are the casualties of all the jews blown up by hezbollah? Don't seem to be seeing any numbers here pal. And, Israel took over the land, and the palestianians didn't like it. So they start bomb and fighting, and the ONLY time Israel kills someone, is in retaliation. Hamas blows up a bus, Israeli army buries a bunker buster missile into a hotel in Lebanon. And more often than not, there are terrorist leaders inside those hotels. And all the refugee camps you hear about, how these poor people just want to live. Then they can stop raising their children to fight against the Israeli's, cause complain all you want, Israel is going nowhere. So you might as well just take the Gaza Strip and your parts of the West Bank, and live with it.
Ever seen Munich? I suggest you do. There was one terrorist that was working and pretending to be an average guy in an office, he gets a phone call from the Lebanon telephone company, asking for him to speak on the phone. Once they confirm that it is him, an Apache helicopter flew in, chain guns rolling, and eliminated him. Thats usually how they do it, if they attack something, its because their information has told them someone is there.
Since you seem to be so good at giving scenarios, what if the Native Americans began rising up in the country and blowing [censored] up? Yeah, lets give them their land back. Afterall, they were here before us, lets just turn over the government to them and leave.
Where are the Jews supposed to go if they do fail? Not many choices, they have their own developed country and have advanced and contributed to the world far beyond the reaches of any Palestine. And you haven't answered my question, is Al Quaeda justified in 9/11? How about in Somalia, justified then? What about the madrid train explosions, justified?
Is America not accepting of Jews? Are they being killed in our streets, can they live here in peace? I don't think they ever "needed" Israel, noticing that the plans for Israel were before the 20th century ie. Nazis.
I love how you try to paste me as an anti-semite, as if all Jews had glasses or something.
Or as if 9/11 was justified, which it wasn't.
Al-Qaeda's entirely different than Hezbollah and Hamas, a little research would help.
A. Al-Qaeda's goal is for the Sunni run Islamic caliphate. Hezbollah drives out Israel from south Lebanon when it was invaded in the 1980's. Hamas is the creation of Israel, to tip the PLO off power and to create a feud in Palestine.
B. Al-Qaeda attacks the west because we support the Saudi oil regime. Hamas and Hezbollah have never attacked the west, unlike Israel, if you look up the USS. Liberty incident. And when they bombed the Irish UN base. And shot and killed reporters. And provided false information about Iraq having WMD's. Things like that.
C. Hezbollah is a Shia group, opposed to Al-Qaeda's bastardization of Islam known as Wahabism, and Hamas has cut the Gaza Strip off of Al-Qaeda.
Don't try to paint me as pro Al-Qaeda or anti-Jewish, Jesus, who was Jewish, is my Lord.
Israel has every right, if not more right, to have their own country as well as the Palestinians. The only difference is, the world turn into a bunch of [censored] once Israel was formed. And you being Christian, of all people, should believe that that is God's land and God's people. Yet you want them out?
EDIT: I added in the Jew glasses part myself ;)
Israel has every right, if not more right, to have their own country as well as the Palestinians. The only difference is, the world turn into a bunch of [censored] once Israel was formed. And you being Christian, of all people, should believe that that is God's land and God's people. Yet you want them out?
EDIT: I added in the Jew glasses part myself ;)
I do agree that Israel have their own right to have their own country. That does not mean to kick out a bunch of people already living there and take that land. Imagine if the Native Americans started kicking us out and ousted the US Government and made it some other country. I'm pretty sure the Americans' wont' just stay put. I mean, the Native Americans have a right to have their own land, too....
And just because the Bible or the Quran or the Talmud or any religious text says something, it does not have to be necessarily true..... Don't mix religion in with politics
anyways, back to the central topic. To all you people out there who say that America did not ask for 9/11, why the hell do you think they attacked us?
Yes, maybe we asked for it, but their attacks are in no way a revenge for our bombings of Iraq.
The thing I try to be clear on is that it is not the fault of the American people, rather, a seriously flawed foreign policy that bit us in the [censored]. And I do think that a Palestinian state should live next to Israel.
Then, if no one else has any other points, we can call this topic debated?
The thing I try to be clear on is that it is not the fault of the American people, rather, a seriously flawed foreign policy that bit us in the [censored]. And I do think that a Palestinian state should live next to Israel.
I disagree with you. There should not be a Palestinian state next to Israel. There should be one state for Jews and Arabs alike.
The thing I try to be clear on is that it is not the fault of the American people, rather, a seriously flawed foreign policy that bit us in the [censored]. And I do think that a Palestinian state should live next to Israel.
And whose fault was that? The flawed foreign policy, I mean.