If people want to pray at school while on break or something that's fine by me. I don't believe it should be forced or take up class time. I'm not religious. But my best friend in high school was very religious. She would go to the events that students would have before school. but no matter how religious she was, she's always said that it needs to be kept out of public schools.
As for Columbine, there are extremists that show up every now and then. Sometimes they get caught and other times they don't. But it's impossible to make everyone happy all the time.
There are more religions existing in the USA than just one religion, Ireland. You try putting people together in public schools to pray, everybody will not just be cooperating and all nice and everything. There will be some other religions who will feel even more left out than usual and I think that it might have triple the chance of a Columbine...
manix163 Wrote:There are more religions existing in the USA than just one religion, Ireland. You try putting people together in public schools to pray, everybody will not just be cooperating and all nice and everything. There will be some other religions who will feel even more left out than usual and I think that it might have triple the chance of a Columbine...
Yeah, I think I know there's more than one religion, don't try to belittle me.
People in their free time should be allowed to pray in private, Muslims must pray five times a day, so what about them?
As I said before, Columbine happened because these people separated themselves from society either by choice or by sincere social problems.
Teachers shouldn't preach it, but leave people who pray to pray and protect whoever wishes to do so, when break time's over, back to school.
Not so hard, right?
I think that evolution should be taught as a theory, and that perhaps religion should be taught it a class all by itself. Say for a week, students learn about Hinduism, and the next week, Judaism, or Christianity, or Islam.
Ryan Wrote:I think that evolution should be taught as a theory, and that perhaps religion should be taught it a class all by itself. Say for a week, students learn about Hinduism, and the next week, Judaism, or Christianity, or Islam.
Great Idea, I second the motion. Along with the ability to pray at breaks.
Don't know about you, but in my district we don't have many breaks.
And school is there to educate, it is not a church. It is not there so people can worship their religion, it is there to educate you about what you need to learn in life. You can't be fair to everyone, so don't be biased at all and no one gets singled out. No religion in school, no one gets left out because everyone gets left out. It's called separation of church and state for a reason.
Zack Wrote:Don't know about you, but in my district we don't have many breaks.
And school is there to educate, it is not a church. It is not there so people can worship their religion, it is there to educate you about what you need to learn in life. You can't be fair to everyone, so don't be biased at all and no one gets singled out. No religion in school, no one gets left out because everyone gets left out. It's called separation of church and state for a reason.
I don't think anything was said about teachers or the state organizing religion, if a kid was to pray before lunch, would that be ok for people?
Or kneel and bless himself after scoring a touchdown in gym?
Or preform Salat (Muslim prayer)?
Or discuss the Torah and practice Judaic traditions?
Believe me, I'm no proponent of the telling me or kids what to believe, but it is endowed in the Constitution to ALLOW people to practice their faith anywhere, it doesn't matter where. The myth that there's gonna be war in the classroom if someone is praying and another person doesn't believe in God is absurd, at the very least. People are killing each other in school for drugs, money and gangs, not for submitting to Allah or saying the Our Father.
I can see it now, the Roman Catholics with their chains and baseball bats, and the Muslims with scimitars, etc. etc. slaying each other on the soccer pitch... :mrgreen:
The point is, you're there to sit in a class all day and listen to bullshit. And by doing so -- I wouldn't be thanking God that I had to sit in a blank room in an uncomfortable chair at 7 in the morning. Sure, say a prayer before lunch or after a touchdown, but don't bring out your Bible or your prayer rag and kneel in front of the class and begin praying. Saying the rosary isn't exactly the fastest thing in the world, it only takes up time.
What about the atheists? What would they do during this time? Also, what if the person is not so religious? Some people take longer time praying then others, too, so it would be strange sitting there for a long time watching people pray...
manix163 Wrote:What about the atheists? What would they do during this time? Also, what if the person is not so religious? Some people take longer time praying then others, too, so it would be strange sitting there for a long time watching people pray...
Exactly.