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chesswarsnow Wrote:
1. Has anyone ever in human history.
2. Seen a mountain being made? (Only Those In The Ark Did)
3. How convenient no one ever has.
4. As long as man has walked this planet, there has never been a mountain thrust up due to tectonic plates.
5. And it never will happen.

That's because it is a very, very slow process, and humans have only been around for a very short time compared to the rest of Earth's history. I remember hearing something like if all of Earth's history was going to be represented by one hour, humans wouldn't show up until the last minute. Perhaps it's the last second -- I can't remember exactly. Point is, the Earth has been around much longer than humans have, and humans have been keeping accurate written records for an even much shorter time. So no, no one in human history has ever seen a mountain being made.

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6. Things not in motion tend to stay not in motion.

The faults never stop building in pressure and releasing. The mantle of the Earth is always active; it's what gives us our magnetic field that protects us from the Sun's harmful radiation. And your statement isn't really true anyway. For example, there are certain types of species on Earth that can become completely frozen solid and stay frozen solid for months and still survive to move around again.

Like I've said before... evolution and religion can coexist together peacefully. I know a lot of people insist on it being one or the other, but that doesn't have to be so. I believe in both God and evolution, anyway.

chesswarsnow Wrote:

Saigio Wrote:


Probably because the plates shift.
How does creationism explain the fossils?




1. So you concede you can no longer believe in *Evolutionainity*?


Regards,
SirJamesofTexas


Read it again.

chesswarsnow Wrote:
Sorry bout that,

1. Has anyone ever in human history.
2. Seen a mountain being made? (Only Those In The Ark Did)
3. How convenient no one ever has.
4. As long as man has walked this planet, there has never been a mountain thrust up due to tectonic plates.
5. And it never will happen.
6. Things not in motion tend to stay not in motion.


Regards,
SirJamesofTexas


Those in the ark ran into a mountain sticking out of the waves, it says so even in the Bible.
Mountains take a massivly long time to form.

Sorry bout that,


Spirit Wrote:

chesswarsnow Wrote:
1. Has anyone ever in human history.
2. Seen a mountain being made? (Only Those In The Ark Did)
3. How convenient no one ever has.
4. As long as man has walked this planet, there has never been a mountain thrust up due to tectonic plates.
5. And it never will happen.

That's because it is a very, very slow process, and humans have only been around for a very short time compared to the rest of Earth's history. I remember hearing something like if all of Earth's history was going to be represented by one hour, humans wouldn't show up until the last minute. Perhaps it's the last second -- I can't remember exactly. Point is, the Earth has been around much longer than humans have, and humans have been keeping accurate written records for an even much shorter time. So no, no one in human history has ever seen a mountain being made.

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6. Things not in motion tend to stay not in motion.

The faults never stop building in pressure and releasing. The mantle of the Earth is always active; it's what gives us our magnetic field that protects us from the Sun's harmful radiation. And your statement isn't really true anyway. For example, there are certain types of species on Earth that can become completely frozen solid and stay frozen solid for months and still survive to move around again.

Like I've said before... evolution and religion can coexist together peacefully. I know a lot of people insist on it being one or the other, but that doesn't have to be so. I believe in both God and evolution, anyway.




1. They way the theory goes, is one side if the plate is tucking under the other, and grinding together very slowly.
2. We never seem to lose any land, did anyone ever note that?
3. Its all the very same, and has always been.
4. The tectonic plates, are just there, and were made when the waters burst forth, when the waters burst forth, the cavity where the waters once was, emptied, and while all the weight of the water was now on the surface, it crushed down the land of the earth, and also thrust up the newly formed mountains.
5. Seeing before then there were just *High Hills*.
6. The proof is in the fossil records themselves.
7. And frozen Mammoths in Siberia Russia.
8. When the world was plunged into *The Flood*, also the top and bottom of the planet froze, the canopy or firmament was dissolved, which caused *The Flood* as well, it being removed from the atmosphere, dropped the temperatures on earth, especially on the poles.
9. *The Mammoth* didn't get the call to come into the Ark, and they all died.
10. Also during *The Flood*, thats when Volcanoes came to be, all the weight of the water squished the earth so hard, that the volcanoes were forced up, much like popping a pimple to a teenage kid.


Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

chesswarsnow Wrote:
1. They way the theory goes, is one side if the plate is tucking under the other, and grinding together very slowly.

That is one example of what the plates do. The plates also pull away from each other or slide along each other going in opposite directions.

chesswarsnow Wrote:
2. We never seem to lose any land, did anyone ever note that?
3. Its all the very same, and has always been.

We are losing and gaining land all the time. Land slips underneath the ocean, it forms from volanic eruptions, and it appears as tectonic plates pull away from each other rather than going underneath each other. The geology of the Earth is always changing, just very slowly.

chesswarsnow Wrote:
4. The tectonic plates, are just there, and were made when the waters burst forth, when the waters burst forth, the cavity where the waters once was, emptied, and while all the weight of the water was now on the surface, it crushed down the land of the earth, and also thrust up the newly formed mountains.

You're referring to the Flood with Noah, I'm guessing. I'm really curious how water is supposed to crush down the Earth (since there is no where for land to be pushed downward) and how water would push land down that much it would form mountains.

chesswarsnow Wrote:
5. Seeing before then there were just *High Hills*.

How did these high hills get there in the first place then?

chesswarsnow Wrote:
6. The proof is in the fossil records themselves.

How so?

chesswarsnow Wrote:
7. And frozen Mammoths in Siberia Russia.
8. When the world was plunged into *The Flood*, also the top and bottom of the planet froze, the canopy or firmament was dissolved, which caused *The Flood* as well, it being removed from the atmosphere, dropped the temperatures on earth, especially on the poles.

The top and the bottom of the planet are still frozen, because the poles get the least amount of direct rays from the sun. And as for the Mammoths that are frozen in Russia, that's because they just died for whatever reason (some of them could have starved, some could have become sick, etc.). Of course, freezing can preserve bodies remarkably well.

chesswarsnow Wrote:
9. *The Mammoth* didn't get the call to come into the Ark, and they all died.

Or they could have died due to climate change, or because humans just took too many of their resources and killed a huge portion of them.

chesswarsnow Wrote:
10. Also during *The Flood*, thats when Volcanoes came to be, all the weight of the water squished the earth so hard, that the volcanoes were forced up, much like popping a pimple to a teenage kid.

Again, that's physically impossible for water to press down on the ground so hard volcanoes and mountains pop up. There's no where for the ground to be pushed downward to. The Earth is round and there would be no where for the pushed down land to go.

Sorry bout that,


1. The water when it was under ground, was adding bouncy to the land, when the water gushed out there was a vacuum.
2. Or weak hollow spot, which was quickly crushed.
3. Where is the land going?
4. I don't see it.
5. Still looking at the same land as far as I know.
6. God formed the *High Hills*, in, *The Beginning*.
7. Many of *The Mammoths* died chomping on greens, food have you, where did they get it, if they were hip deep in snow?
8. It happened all of a sudden.
9. Water is heavy, and it just crushed the Earth after *The Flood*.
10. Show us where we are getting some new land, and don't show us some obscure place on the bottom of de sea.


Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

chesswarsnow Wrote:
1. The water when it was under ground, was adding bouncy to the land, when the water gushed out there was a vacuum.

How is that even possible for water of that magnitude to be underground? Land is heavier than water and that much water would have seeped through the land. It's simply not possible for all/most of the water in the world to have been underneath the land with the land floating on top of it. That's possible with ice, but not land. Sure there is underground water, but that water is of a much less magnitude and it all eventually goes back to the sea or is taken up to the surface by plants, animals, etc. And what do you mean land was "bouncy"? What, you could jump on the Earth and it would act like a trampoline? Again, physically impossible.

chesswarsnow Wrote:
2. Or weak hollow spot, which was quickly crushed.

It's impossible for there to be a gigantic hollow spot inside the Earth, or any known kind of planet for that matter. How would this hollow spot be able to stand all the pressure of the weight of the land above it? When the Earth was being formed, how would a hollow spot be able to created when meteorites were crushing into the Earth with such force that the Moon was blasted off from Earth and into space?

chesswarsnow Wrote:
3. Where is the land going?

It can go underneath the ocean if the sea level rises or it can slide underneath other land. It can also be created if the sea level drops or from volcanoes. When two plates cause land to slide underneath each other, that typically forms a volcano, and volcanoes create more land. It's a cycle.

chesswarsnow Wrote:
4. I don't see it.
5. Still looking at the same land as far as I know.

Of course you don't see it. It's an extremely slow process, and unless you live in an area that is tectonically active, you really have no chance of seeing even subtle differences.

chesswarsnow Wrote:
7. Many of *The Mammoths* died chomping on greens, food have you, where did they get it, if they were hip deep in snow?

Just because when we found them deep in snow doesn't mean that they were in snow when they died. Climate change changes just about every area of the Earth into something very different. Mammoth fossils are most commonly found in areas that were believed to be covered by grasslands and savannas, and their main diet supposedly consisted of grasses. They are also found in areas that are believed were formerly tundras. Exactly what they were doing up around tundras some of the time, I don't think anyone really knows. It is entirely possible that there was some slight vegetation there at the time, or they crossed tundras due to migration.

chesswarsnow Wrote:
10. Show us where we are getting some new land, and don't show us some obscure place on the bottom of de sea.

Certainly; Hawaii is getting larger in area every year due to volcanic eruptions.



As you can see in this picture, fresh lava has extended out toward the ocean and touching the water, making the steam rise. Because of that, a small bit of land was just added to that coast of Hawaii.

BoogyMan Wrote:

Pookie Wrote:
Well, I don't see any references to the devil when I check out evolution theories, but I sure do see him mentioned a lot in the Bible, so I'd have to say the devil has more of an influence on creation, and not any influence on evolution.
Check it out for yourselves. I did.
Purrs,
Pookie


Hey Pook, I have to admit, this one doesn't make much sense. (boogy ducks) The is no mention of the Devil really until later in the text.

The devil did have an influence AFTER creation was completed as he was instrumental in tempting Eve who in turn tempted Adam. Both fell to the temptation.


The question was , "Is The Devil Behind Evolution Science" -- and I could find no reference to the devil in evolution science. Get it? But he's all over creation, according to the Bible, like a bad rash.
So, what is the devil behind?
It's quite simple. In the Bible, he's trying to tempt people into sin from the very beginning, in the Garden of Eden.
Where is the devil in evolution?
Or is this a weak parallel ASSUMING the devil is behind evolution?
Geez, people, look at it. How hard is this?
Purrs,
Pookie

And WHERE in the Bible does it SPECIFICALLY mention evolution and the devil's influence behind it? I need chapter and verse, absolute proof.
Thanks!
Purrs,
Pookie
Sorry bout that,



Spirit Wrote:

chesswarsnow Wrote:
1. The water when it was under ground, was adding bouncy to the land, when the water gushed out there was a vacuum.

How is that even possible for water of that magnitude to be underground? Land is heavier than water and that much water would have seeped through the land. It's simply not possible for all/most of the water in the world to have been underneath the land with the land floating on top of it. That's possible with ice, but not land. Sure there is underground water, but that water is of a much less magnitude and it all eventually goes back to the sea or is taken up to the surface by plants, animals, etc. And what do you mean land was "bouncy"? What, you could jump on the Earth and it would act like a trampoline? Again, physically impossible.

chesswarsnow Wrote:
2. Or weak hollow spot, which was quickly crushed.

It's impossible for there to be a gigantic hollow spot inside the Earth, or any known kind of planet for that matter. How would this hollow spot be able to stand all the pressure of the weight of the land above it? When the Earth was being formed, how would a hollow spot be able to created when meteorites were crushing into the Earth with such force that the Moon was blasted off from Earth and into space?

chesswarsnow Wrote:
3. Where is the land going?

It can go underneath the ocean if the sea level rises or it can slide underneath other land. It can also be created if the sea level drops or from volcanoes. When two plates cause land to slide underneath each other, that typically forms a volcano, and volcanoes create more land. It's a cycle.

chesswarsnow Wrote:
4. I don't see it.
5. Still looking at the same land as far as I know.

Of course you don't see it. It's an extremely slow process, and unless you live in an area that is tectonically active, you really have no chance of seeing even subtle differences.

chesswarsnow Wrote:
7. Many of *The Mammoths* died chomping on greens, food have you, where did they get it, if they were hip deep in snow?

Just because when we found them deep in snow doesn't mean that they were in snow when they died. Climate change changes just about every area of the Earth into something very different. Mammoth fossils are most commonly found in areas that were believed to be covered by grasslands and savannas, and their main diet supposedly consisted of grasses. They are also found in areas that are believed were formerly tundras. Exactly what they were doing up around tundras some of the time, I don't think anyone really knows. It is entirely possible that there was some slight vegetation there at the time, or they crossed tundras due to migration.

chesswarsnow Wrote:
10. Show us where we are getting some new land, and don't show us some obscure place on the bottom of de sea.

Certainly; Hawaii is getting larger in area every year due to volcanic eruptions.



As you can see in this picture, fresh lava has extended out toward the ocean and touching the water, making the steam rise. Because of that, a small bit of land was just added to that coast of Hawaii.


1. God put the water where he wanted it, under ground, *In The Beginning*.
2. He also put all that oil there too.
3. Gas deposits as well.
4. The gas deposits are a mile down, if its left over dead animals and other remains, explain how it got down there?
5. The water would of been lower I think, maybe 2 miles down.
6. Also before *The Flood*, there wasn't any rain, and rivers were supplied by springs, not anything else, seeing there wasn't any real weather events, snow etc.
7. And no mountains for snow to collect.
8. The water up above in the Firmament, and below under ground created a strong magnetic field, which when it was taken away, people died sooner.
9. God decided to not allow people to live so long, so he took it away.
10. The land coming from volcanoes has nothing to do with Tectonic Plates, its just molten rock, finding its way to the surface.

Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

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