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Okay, and I'm telling you that's physically impossible.

The same reason fossils can be quite deep under the ground. Sand doesn't stay constant either. It is always moving around, being created or clumped together into stone. Nothing stays the same forever. As time goes on, a new layer of sand is added above and older layer. The deeper down you go, the older layers of sand and fossils you will find. That's why oil is find so deep underground -- it takes an incredibly long time to form.

And where do you think the springs got their water from? And since you say that there wasn't any rain before *The Flood* then what, were there no plants anywhere? And if there were no plants any where, there would be no humans or any heterotrophs for that matter. There would also be no oxygen in the atmosphere either.

Really, God took the magnetic field away. That would mean that pretty much our entire atmosphere would have been swept away into space and our planet would now resemble something like Mars. And water can't make a magnetic field. Only tectonic activity and magma can do that. The planet Mars is a perfect example of this. This planet aged faster than ours. It used to be tectonically active, but now it's dead and it has only a thin atmosphere of carbon dioxide a traces of a few other things. It's widely believed that there was once a fair amount of water on Mars and it might have even had a blue sky. That was all destroyed by the death of their magnetic field.

Volcanoes are formed by convergent plates, one sliding underneath another. If it was not for the tectonic plates' activity, we would have no active volcanoes today.

Sorry bout that,

1. Nothing is impossible with, *God*.
2. Answer where all the layers of dirt came from after the creation of the Earth?
3. You say layers upon layers of sediment was over laid on the oil and gas deposits.
4. Just where did those layers come from then?
5. And if so they came from space, would those layers be all over the planet, even under water?
6. Wouldn't a mile of sediment cover up half the depth of the oceans?
7. Where did all the material come from???
8. All plant life was watered by a *Dew* or *Mist* that fell upon all the plants and ground during night time.
9. When morning came, *The Mist* dried up, and cleared off.
10. *God* didn't take all the magnetic field away, just reduced it.
11. It used to be 10 times as strong, but now, seeing man at that time had fallen out of grace, *God* decided to not allow man kind to live so long, so in order to have creation itself hinder mans life spans, *God* changed *Reality*.
12. There are mountain tops, no where near tectonic plates, also the ring of fire circles the Pacific Ocean, and does not run through or near every volcano.


Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

Okay, then we are at a dead end. You say it happened, and I say it didn't. I showed you the scientific facts, but if you choose not to believe them, then that is the end of that particular discussion about the water all being under the Earth.

I love how so many people are so quick to think that there's no reason to look for a logical explanation for things -- to just say God did it because He can. Well, I think that God is logical, and "miracles" such as all the ocean being put beneath the Earth are very, very rare. If God wasn't logical, He wouldn't have created DNA, the water cycle, etc. To jump to such crazy conclusions just because all things are possible with God is an insult to Him. So what if there are tectonic plates that make mountains and earthquakes, and water was on the Earth before the Flood? How does this discredit God?

And I'm really curious as to where you got this idea from in the first place, because I am thinking you're just making this up as you go along and not taking it from the Bible.

From volcanic eruptions. At one time, most of the Earth was covered in lava. Eventually, the Earth cooled, and the lava finally had a chance to gradually become soil as we know it today.

From volcanic eruptions, the transportation of sand by wind and water, and the erosion of rocks, mountains, etc. Those are the three I know of, at least.

Are you under the assumption that mist and dew can be created on a planet that does not have rain? That most plants can take in water from their leaves? Most plants, like the ones that animals commonly eat, can only take in water from their roots.

And secondly, if there was mist and dew being formed, then it would be raining as well. What makes rain? Humidity. What makes mist and dew? Humidity. I'm not saying it has to rain every where dew is going to form, but on a planet that has dew and mist, it also rains there as well.

And again, I really want to see where you are getting this information from.

All right, then He reduced it. You might want to get your story straight then, only yesterday you said that He "took it away." Anyway, if a magnetic field is only reduced and not destroyed, humanity would be okay. The magnetic field doesn't make us live longer or lessen our life spans, at least, that has not been scientifically proven. As long as it's there to protect the Earth from the Sun's radiation, it's okay. The magnetic field does weaken and actually reverse in direction, over a very, very long span of time. At one time a very long time ago, if you had a compass, it would point south, not north. Then the field became weaker, weaker, and then suddenly changed direction. It's actually supposed to change direction again within the next two hundred years.

We already discussed why there are mountains and old volcanoes far away from the tectonic plates and I gave you the reason. I'm not repeating myself.

Sorry bout that,

1. Sure its *Biblical*, all founded upon *The Bible*.
2. So your saying that all those different layers of sediment were thrown up from the center of the Earth?
3. I don't think that would be remotely possible.
4. You seem to be saying that *The Volcanoes* killed off *The Dinosaurs*.
5. And all these layers of sediments were applied by the volcanoes.
6. Seeing the oil is over a mile down, and even the gas deposits are a mile down, all this material above the oil and gas, are relatively new.
7. Which means, that the actual surface of the Earth is over a mile and a half down.
8. Which if thats the case, there wouldn't be any land to inhabit, if the oceans were above the surface of the planet.
9. Think about it, what you suggest is rather impossible.
10. What I suggest is *Reality*.
11. *The Firmament* kept the Earth cooler, and yet cozy, didn't get hot or cold, it was perfect, no rain needed, because the *Dew* watered all the land, to where the soil was damp, but not muddy, every night.
12. Its in *The Bible*.
13. *The Firmament* protected all the Earth from the suns radiation, which was a key factor in *Longer Human Lives*.
14. Along with the stronger magnetic fields, this increased human life, and all life prospered better, everything that grew, grew ten times better.
15. It won't be a changing, the magnetic field is permanent.
16. Volcanoes come up from far flung places, and seeing that they are not centered around *The Tectonic Plates* proves further how the theory is flawed.


Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

So, CWN, all this comes from the Bible and from no other source, or did you forget to post links?
Purrs,
Pookie

And I want exactly where in the Bible you're getting this from. I'm sure you know that you cite things using the person's name and the number, for example, John 1:9. I went to church all my life through childhood and I never heard these stories such as it didn't rain during Noah's time.

Well I'm sorry you don't think that's remotely possible. I showed you the picture of the lava flowing to the coasts of Hawaii, and I also added that dirt can be moved from one location to another due to erosion.

I don't know what is up with you and dinosaurs, or why you keep coming back to them. No where did I mention dinosaurs in the previous post.

That and the debris from space when the planet was still forming. The planet grew and grew in size as things continued to crash into it. Volcanoes don't make anything, all they do is bring up magma from deep inside the Earth. That magma is only rock in hot, liquid form.

Not necessarily new, but newer.

I don't understand how you figured that number out, but it's incorrect. The Earth goes down much deeper than that.

I have no idea what you're saying here.

Or rather, what you suggested above is impossible. I have absolutely no idea how you came to the conclusion that the Earth goes down a mile and half, or how we got to the oceans being above the surface of planet.

Tell me about it; that's what I've been trying to defend.

Yeah, and like I said, that's impossible. Dew is not enough to water probably somewhere around 95% of plants. And any atmosphere that creates dew is going to create rain as well. Dew comes from moisture in the atmosphere. Rain comes from moisture in the atmosphere. Mist comes from moisture in the atmosphere. Fog comes from moisture in the atmosphere. Clouds come from moisture in the atmosphere.

Oh, and I'm curious what people and animals drank, if they did not drink water.

Yeah, you said that already. And I want to know specifically where.

Okay then, the Firmament, whatever that is. Not the magnetic field anymore, I guess.

And I repeat that a stronger magnetic field doesn't extend a life span. Do people living closer to the poles (where the field is the weakest) live less time than people living near the equator (where the field is the strongest)? No.

Really, previously you said that God changed the magnetic field, and then just above you said that the magnetic field was stronger at one time. So which is it, is it permanent or not?

And again I'm telling you that tectonic plates have everything to do with volcanoes. They're what make volcanoes. No tectonic plates = no volcanoes. No movement of the plates = no active volcanoes.

The devil is an imaginary deity used to instill fear and intolerance into the young. Like almost all facets of religion (whether it be of Christ or the state or Mankind) it is itself responsible for nothing, because it does not exist, but rather a tool to control the minds and wills of those who can not or will not see it for what it is.