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Ok my first post so please try and bare with me here..

Im quite tired of hearing everyone bash the bush administration for "terrrible and murderous decisions in iraq". Honestly i feel that we have plenty of good reasons to be at war with iraq that far surpasses oil and terrorism...we used to be the country who single handedly had the most powerful and feared army in the world. But lately many have seen us a no more than a rag-tag militia with the capabilitie of a third-world country (al-qaeda). So when 9/11 happened some sort of action had to be taken towards the defense of our nation. So we went to war at the beginning morale was high and everyone supported the idea..but as time went on the morale dwindled and many doubted not knowing that the implication taking place would take a while to take effect and fully eliminate al-qaeda and bring iraq its freedom. soon people became impatient and began the idea we needed to pull out of iraq but even though our idea of success in iraq wasnt fully reached all is not lost, if we do pull out than the example we would be setting for other countries would be
that the once most powerful and feared nation cannot take down a simple terroist group. Lives will be lost but that happens as in any war our casulties are under 5k and thats unacceptable? hmm I dont see how this war is a wasted expense ..
what are your views?

-TrueGenius

TrueGenius Wrote:
So when 9/11 happened some sort of action had to be taken towards the defense of our nation.

And that's great and all, but Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11.

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So we went to war at the beginning morale was high and everyone supported the idea..

Not me!

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but as time went on the morale dwindled and many doubted not knowing that the implication taking place would take a while to take effect and fully eliminate al-qaeda and bring iraq its freedom.

I think that's great that we gave Iraq its freedom, but what I hate about it is that I feel we were lied to. I definitely remember all that "Iraq has weapons of mass destruction!" talk. With 9/11 still fresh in people's mind, most people supported invading Iraq. We go there at what do we find? Not any weapons of mass destruction.

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soon people became impatient and began the idea we needed to pull out of iraq but even though our idea of success in iraq wasnt fully reached all is not lost,

What success? What exactly is being done? We overthrew the dictator years ago. Now it's up to them to run their own country. I don't think the "keep shooting -- they're not looking grateful for their freedom yet!" is really working.

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if we do pull out than the example we would be setting for other countries would be
that the once most powerful and feared nation cannot take down a simple terroist group. Lives will be lost but that happens as in any war our casulties are under 5k and thats unacceptable? hmm I dont see how this war is a wasted expense ..
what are your views?

I think we're setting an example of how stupid we're being. We've lost thousands of our own troops, and killed even more Iraqi civilians. There already has been huge casualties, and the number is only growing.

Timothy McVeigh had more WMDs in the back of that Ryder truck than Saddam ever dreamed of having.
PLUS, the culprits of 9/11 were SAUDIS.
So why aren't we invading Saudi Arabia? These Saudis were living in Afghanistan. Saudi Arabians out of Afghanistan.
Where's Iraq? We attacked Iraq on the premise that they had WMDs. The UN didn't find them. So we wiped out Saddam. Ok, but what did it have to do with 9/11?
And where is Bin Laden?
All the promises and everything...ONE question.
I want an answer. Where is Osama Bin Laden? Tell me.
Pookie
I also love how it seems people have not only completely forgotten that it is Osama Bin Laden who is our greatest enemy and not Saddam, but also that Bush Sr. invaded Iraq a decade previously. You'd think people would be able to put two and two together.
But no one has answered my question. Where's Osama Bin Laden?
Purrs,
Pookie

Pookie Wrote:
Timothy McVeigh had more WMDs in the back of that Ryder truck than Saddam ever dreamed of having.


Sarcasm, ok, I will let it slide assuming you meant Saddam had no WMDs when OIF began becasue he did have them, tons and tons of them, before hand in the 80s and 90s. (Oddly, that is when McVeigh was doing his thing.)

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PLUS, the culprits of 9/11 were SAUDIS. So why aren't we invading Saudi Arabia? These Saudis were living in Afghanistan. Saudi Arabians out of Afghanistan.


Yes, and McVeigh was from the US. Yet, we are not invading Texas. Point being, just becasue culprits are from a country does not necessarily mean the country's government supported/sponsored the event.

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Where's Iraq?


West of Iran.

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And where is Bin Laden?


Pakistan

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All the promises and everything...ONE question.
I want an answer. Where is Osama Bin Laden? Tell me.
Pookie


Pakistan

Good. There's all the answers. So why hasn't Osama Bin Laden been caught yet?
Purrs,
Pookie
Probably for the same reason AQ has not captured GWB.
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