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Problem is, it's not just about America anymore, it's a worldwide disease.

Being tall is genetic and something that you're born with. I believe that no one is born gay, but it's that they're just mentally ill.

Well it's happening isn't it? If we allow same-sex marriages, then we can probably allow Human-Animal marriages as well. This is why this whole thing is ridiculous.

I'm not going to bother responding to this one, because it seems like another case of "Sarcastic wit gone stupid".

Again, not going to bother.

This has nothing to do about validity.

Do you have proof that states otherwise? Obviously, having a gay couple married and adopting a child will influence the child to be homosexual more so than having a straight couple influencing a child. It's just common sense.

There is no legitimate religion that supports this [censored] at all. Even if you talk to old people who were born in the 60s, they themselves say that being gay just isn't tolerable anymore and it all traces back to the hippies.

You're taking things out of context again. No one ever said that. This is irrelevant to everything discussed here.

So just because we adapted before, we can adapt now?

What if we were all of a sudden, invaded and colonized by aliens?

Using your logic, society would just say "Ah the hell with it" and just adapt to the new social reforms.




I think we can safely say that most people here aren't for gay rights at all, but rather, they're indifferent to the idea because it (somewhat) violates the Constitution. The people who do care, however, are actively protesting against it.

How, indeed.
It either violates the Constitution or doesn't at all. Personally, I think the separation of church and state would be broken down if gay unions aren't permitted in accordance with what each state votes on, and would also be violating my personal liberties. Yet again, no one has brought forth independently verified proof from medical journal/doctors that say homosexuality is a disease, or even a mental illness, which I might add are two separate things altogether. You say that homosexuals have a disease, but they aren't born with it, and it's a mental illness at the same time. My mom's a nurse who has worked with the mentally ill, seen them suffer and in pain. You lessen the pain the mentally ill endure by saying homosexuals are equal with them. As I've already said, America wasn't the first place homosexuality emerged; it was in ancient Greece and feudal Japan, and they contributed to the societies and didn't exactly collapse their culture and people, noticing it took an atomic bomb to defeat the Japanese, and Greece was the center for the creation of democracy, which allows you to type the things you have.

Let me tell you one thing, mental illnesses do not have to make the user suffer all the time. There are hundreds of mental problems that don't give pain to anybody.

In addition, can you prove that "homosexuality" is not a disease? Let's think. For one thing, it is very unusual and unnatural to be homosexual. We can all agree on that. To check if something is not good in society, imagine a world with only those people. Don't compare it to left handed people and those who wear glasses like Archer did. That made no sense. We can live longly and peacefully with a world full of lefties. But can people live in a world full of anti-socials and mentally retarded? Noooooooo. Can people live in a world full of AIDS infected people? Noooooooooo. Can gays live peacefully in a land of gays? Yes they can. Will they last long? Maybe, if you think one generation is long. The human race would die out in less than 60 years.
I'm not saying that we should do anything to these people other than find a cure of some sort, just like to those with AIDS. But saying that they should have gay marriages legalized is like having AID's infected prostitutes trying to get a law saying that whorehouses can't discriminate against AID's patients.......... Yea, it won't affect me, but I sure as hell hate the idea........
And sure, japan and Greece had some important gay people...but that doesn't mean the whole country is gay...I'm willing to bet a lot that if you call yourself gay and and run to either of those countries, you will not be warmly received...

You think homosexuals aren't warmly received in Japan?!? Have you ever been to Japan? They are the most sexual people in the world, and Japan didn't have "some" gay people, the entire samurai class had homosexual relations with their teacher from the 17th century onward! And the reason why Greece tolerated homosexuals is because they were democratic, they didn't care what sexual preferences other people had! They don't force homosexuality onto other people, they choose to live that way, while I choose to live a straight lifestyle. Who cares.
And Koishii, if you didn't happen to notice, the entire list Archer wrote was SARCASTIC, it was because it HAPPENED, not because it's true now.

Yes, exactly, religion has no place in politics.

Fool! How can you say those civilizations didn't accept homosexuals? It was people like you, who neglect the better good of the world, that prevented the decline of homosexuals. Those civilizations probably wanted to ban homosexuals, but it was the irrational thoughts of people like you who are destroying society as we speak.

Let's not make the same mistakes as the previous civilizations, and make the world a better place. LOL!