Debateful

I know what a coward is, mate. And I also know the rules that I wrote when I first made this forum. It said that if there were hateful comments, the staff (John and I) were allowed to ban members. Now, I have seen extremely hateful comments in this thread and a few others. Rather than ban people, I'm going to step away from the thread. Anyone that says a person deserves to die for a particular belief or an attraction is technically hateful and therefore, bannable. So, consider it me just turning a blind eye to a debate that went way too personal...No one won this debate, but when you debate something as controversial as this, can there really be a winner?

We could debate this for ten pages and do you know what would be the outcome? The same thing that is being said here. You said no to gay marriages because you're disgusted and I say yes to gay marriages because I see no wrong in it. You say no because you think it is biologically wrong, I say yes because as I showed, there is nothing biologically wrong. We can go back and forth or I can go and work on making this site better. Choice is yours...Continue a mindless debate about people's engraved beliefs OR allow me to work on some things for a contest. So am I a coward for wanting to give back to the site? If so, let me know now and I'll continue debating and we can scratch the contest idea.

Let's keep this debate on-topic. Obviously, many of us are not on mutual terms on such a controversial topic but try not to lose your anger over this. If you have something related to the topic to contribute, feel free to do so. If you don't, I highly recommend that you don't post.

Nobody said they wanted to kill anybody except for Mr. Joker. As you should all know from his previous posts and his accomplice, there are two people who you cannot take seriously on this site. Those two are Dante and Mr. Koker. They're just here to piss off people. Nobody yet, was that extreme in saying that they wanted gays to be killed. Hopefully, it will stay that way. I am just saying that we shouldn't encourage something like this.

I just read all of these posts, and I'm seriously laughing out loud right here.

So basically, you're arguing that this is a meaningless debate because we go "back and forth". Guess what dude. You can apply the same logic to pretty much every other debate topic on here. And last I checked, the site was called DEBATEFUL.COM

Liberals and Conservatives argue this same issue every day, its no different than what is going on here. You're going to find Fascists, Communists, and extremists everywhere you turn. Nothing is going to change that. Yes, I would love for things to be more civil, but that is not the case. You're going to find extreme white supremacists or religious people that think that genocide is the only answer to homosexuals in this country (The same could be said about illegal immigrants).


Work things for a contest? Give back to the site?

Look man, I can probably tell you that almost no one here comes here for all of that meaningless stuff. And even if they did, I can truthfully attest that I CAME to this site for DISCUSSION. Even if they're extreme leftists, it doesn't matter. Its a free country, and if you can't handle that, then I suggest you take away free speech altogether. Good Night.

i think this should be an issue where a compromise has to be made...
i'm not really disgusted by the idea of gay marriage, since gays are gonna make out and do whatever anyways and the government doesn't do anything.

so here's an idea...
gay marriage can be made, but without the same legal weight as heterosexual marriages because

1. there isn't really any benefit for gay marriages other than the couples themselves
2. lots of religious people won't acknowledge the marriage

if that works, then all the gay couples need to do is to find someone to "join" them... there'll be probably lots more laws/ordinances that'll have to be made. if the future generation wants to change it, then let them change it. (like the foundng fathers on the issue of slavery)

since it's useless to try convince that homosexuality is un-natural... it's better to make up a solution... a debate's purpose is to find a solution, not to get stuck in a gridlock, dont you guys agree?

Well thats the whole issue here. Gay couples want marriage WITH the same weight. They don't just want the benefits but the title as well. I'm okay with gay couples being together and have the same benefits as heterosexual couples but its the word "marriage". Gays want to be "married".

Actually, I don't know if that's so true. I think what Gays want, at least the ones that I have talked to, is the same rights of a married couple. Sure, there may be a few radicals that want to be called 'married,' but the most, I believe, just want to be safe. If I was married and I could not make a medical choice because of something that happened, my wife could. A gay couple, that's not the case. The same is the case for houses and the such. Insurance companies are the same way. They don't recognize gay couples, instead, they recognize marriages. So, if there was some sort of a gay marriage that was not marriage, I do believe most of the homosexual population would be pretty cool with it.

What's your definition of "courage", Wii? Saying a sexual preference by a minority is a "disease", or not separating yourself from the "let's banish homosexuals" crowd? That's real courage there, mate. Bravo.

I don't get what you are saying. Courage? Courage is bravery. Wtf does that have to do with gays and this topic? I thought John set this straight.